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                                                 LurkingI didn't realize Germany had Marines.

Navy needs to change their uniform....the non-officer suits look like crap.

Poor Matrosen.

hey at least it has a tradition that goes back longer than 50 years... 

HildemelPoor Matrosen.

Bleifuss

Astaran

Shall we move on?

BUNDESWEHR/BMVg Presse-/Informationsstab AB3/Presseauswertung Friday December 2nd.2011

- The BW-participation by one year to the EU-led anti-piracy mission Atalanta before the SOM coast;

BW participation until the end of 2012 with up to 700 Bundeswehr soldiers in the NATO-led

Active Endeavour mission against international terrorism and

- The DEU participation of the EU mission Althea to stabilize the peace process in BIH

� Bw Association chief Kirsch demand in light of recent violent incidents in KOS to increase the AVZ for BW- soldiers from level three (63 � / day) to level four (78 � / day) writes dpa.

� After nearly two years was the parliament investigation of the controversial Kunduz air strike ended (DAPD). In the final debate BT asked the coalition to stand behind Klein. The opposition condemnation of the attack continues.

De Maizere should promote Klein to General to stick it into their dirty faces.

"Stunned and in deep sadness I stand in front of our fallen comrade.

Strange unrelenting hatred has torn him from our midst.

He let behind a void that is not to close.

I feel with all the other members of the PRT pain helplessness but also

the great burden of responsibility for our actions.

May he find peace."

Georg Klein

Some great Germany army photos should be shared here.

Yep she�s a Captain (Hauptmann).

The new smock these Gebirgsj�ger are testing looks quite nice all those extra pockets. But that IDZ outer vest/ballistic vest combo looks pretty bulky especially compared to other nations balistic vests...no wonder we see so many CIRAS etc. used by German troops...

Great pictures and videos!

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German C-160:

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                       Awesome pics. Keep em coming.

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                                                 Wraith.NZL

Me too mate! They are being a pain in the **** about it all too...

Singled out for destruction is going to be my weekly catchphrase.

Red Command NZ : Yeah sure are. I was told I'd have a reply by Friday. Nothing. It's been weeks since I sent the information in.

Welcome to the government more particularly defence. The stories I've heard about delays and paperwork...

I have a mate who did his basic then turned up to his unit after only to be told "we didn't know you were coming let alone that they'd even recruited anyone..."

Because the recruiters hardly see the potential recruits everything else is done by a 'coordinator' who is a civi.....

Stupid system if you ask me. At least before they changed it the recruiters kinda got to know the potential recruits during the process. Ah well fingers crossed.

Losing paperwork or not getting a letter in a timely fashion will mean nothing to you about two and a half minutes after you drive through the gates at WTD.

Trust me you'll have other things to worry about.

2/1kiwiBecause the recruiters hardly see the potential recruits everything else is done by a 'coordinator' who is a civi.....

Speaking of recruiting who decided it was a good idea to let an ad company have almost carte blanche control over the advertising content?

Mate I reckon its mainly because they are no longer recruiting rural and semi-rural blue collar type kids who's only other job prospect was a Freezing Works or Pulp Mill (like I was sort of.)

They need to target the first generation or so thats coming of age who were shut ins that grew up playing XBox and Playstation and are allergic to fresh air. Hugely generalised they are more intelligent have a micro-second attention span and are far more inter-connected to the World than I ever was.

The whole 'Tomb Raider' clone ads are a response to that. Whatever works I guess. Society changes so the forces have to adapt or die just like everyone else. Watching clips of our current end product though shows me the qualities are still the same and we seem to be turning out service members as fine as any before them so they must be doing something right during the baking process.

BP72Mate I reckon its mainly because they are no longer recruiting rural and semi-rural blue collar type kids who's only other job prospect was a Freezing Works or Pulp Mill (like I was sort of.)

My advice is to stick with it guys had family just get in after about 12-18 month recruitment (the system change during his period)

Interesting that for the non-tripod mounted minimi they're insisting on fixed stock only. I would have thought having the para stock on there would be preferable?

Yeah I was talking mainly in response to Zorro's comment. Probably should have clarified a bit better. I doubt the regions have changed. My point was the kids these days are a hell of a lot more tech savvy going in than I ever was so I would imagine they have to appeal to them in a similar fashion to every other distraction they have.

I probably should have clarified myself I was thinking of the latest air force run in particular with the model you move around through your PC. Who does driving a forklift around appeal to?

Wraith.NZLInteresting that for the non-tripod mounted minimi they're insisting on fixed stock only. I would have thought having the para stock on there would be preferable?

The tripods are a task specific accessory. Not for mounting full time like SFMG.             

AMYAN PROVINCE, Afghanistan -- New Zealand Army Sgt. Anthony Watson, the 2nd in Command of 2nd Kiwi Patrol, Task Force Crib, mans his light armored vehicle at a fighting position during a stand-to drill on Forward Operating Base Bamyan, June 19, 2012. Soldiers from New Zealand have been stationed at FOB Bamyan since 2003. BAMYAN PROVINCE, Afghanistan -- New Zealand soldiers drive their light armored vehicle to a fighting position during a stand-to drill on Forward Operating Base Bamyan, June 19, 2012. Soldiers from New Zealand have been stationed at FOB Bamyan since 2003. BAMYAN PROVINCE, Afghanistan -- New Zealand soldiers drive their light armored vehicle to a fighting position during a stand-to drill on Forward Operating Base Bamyan, June 19, 2012. Soldiers from the New Zealand have been stationed at FOB Bamyan since 2003. BAMYAN PROVINCE, Afghanistan -- New Zealand Army Supply Lance Cpl. Isaac King re-coils a fire hose during a stand-to drill on Forward Operating Base Bamyan, June 19, 2012. BAMYAN PROVINCE, Afghanistan -- New Zealand Sgt. Maj. Paxworthy, a native of Palmerston North, pulls security under an airplane wing at the Forward Operating Base Bamyan airfield June 15, 2012. The smaller of the two famous Buddha's of Bamiyan statues used to stand in the huge indentation that can be seen in the distance. Soldiers from the New Zealand have been stationed at FOB Bamyan since 2003. BAMYAN PROVINCE, Afghanistan -- New Zealand soldiers with Task Unit Crib run up PT Hill for physical training behind Forward Operating Base Bamyan, June 19, 2012. Soldiers from New Zealand have been stationed at FOB Bamyan since 2003. Soldiers from New Zealand Army conduct a multinational assault exercise on a suspected Improvised Explosive Device (IED)manufacturing camp at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. Soldiers from New Zealand Army moves forward during a multinational assault exercise on a suspected Improvised Explosive Device (IED) manufacturing camp at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. Soldiers from New Zealand Army conduct a multinational assault exercise on a suspected Improvised Explosive Device (IED)manufacturing camp at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. Soldiers from New Zealand Army conduct a multinational assault exercise on a suspected Improvised Explosive Device (IED)manufacturing camp at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. A soldier from New Zealand secures the road side as U.S. Marines and New Zealand Army move forward up a dirt road at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. U.S. Marines, Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment and soldiers from New Zealand Army move forward up a dirt road at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012 U.S. Marines, from Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment and soldiers from New Zealand Army move forward up a dirt road at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. Soldiers from the New Zealand Army move quickly toward for the tree line as they disembark a CH-53E Super Stallion from Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadron 463, Marine Corps Base Hawaii – Kane’ohe Bay, as it lands at the Kahuku Training Area, (KTA) near the north shore of Ohau, Hawaii July 31, 2012, in support of Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise 2012. A New Zealand soldier sprints to his next position during a platoon-size movement range as part of Rim of the Pacific, 2012 Sgt. Robert W. Morgan, an artillery section chief with Alpha Battery, 1st Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, loads an artillery round into the L119 light gun during Exercise Brimstone here, June 27. New Zealand gunners from 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, and U.S. Marines with Alpha Battery, 1st Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, fire the L119 light gun during Exercise Brimstone here, June 27. New Zealand Army Warrant Officer Class 1 Damon Mitchell, the 163 Battery captain with the 16th Field Regiment, passes information about the next gun site to Bombardier Rendo H. Larkins, the operational command post sergeant with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, during Exercise Brimstone here, June 26. New Zealand Army Bombardier Daniel J. O'Loughlin, a detachment commander with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, U.S. Marine Lance Cpl. Dakota S. Myrick, an artilleryman with Alpha Battery, 1st Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, and New Zealand Gunner Jayden G. Le Vaillant, an artilleryman with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, fire the L119 light gun during Exercise Brimstone here, June 26. New Zealand gunners and U.S. Marines fire the L119 light gun during a brief pause between snowstorms during Exercise Brimstone here, June 26. New Zealand gunners and U.S. Marines prepare for a fire mission during a snowstorm during Exercise Brimstone here, June 26 New Zealand Bombardier Daniel J. O'Loughlin, a detachment commander with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, grabs artillery rounds in preparation for a fire mission during Exercise Brimstone here, June 24. New Zealand Army Second Lieutenant Geoff A. Chamberlain, a command post officer with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, awaits orders while firing a coordinated illumination mission during Exercise Brimstone here, June 23. New Zealand Army Gunner Bronson K. Ebbett, a command post operator with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, and U.S. Marine Lance Cpl. Joseph S. Meraz, an artilleryman with Alpha Battery, 1st Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, scout out a new gun position during Exercise Brimstone here, June 23 New Zealand Army Bombardier Karl A. Howard, a gun sergeant with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, reads information from his portable data unit during Exercise Brimstone here, June 23. New Zealand Army Lance Bombardier Jamie T. Henderson, a cannon crewman with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, looks through the rear collimator to help position the L119 light gun during Exercise Brimstone here, June 23. New Zealand Army gunners and U.S. Marines fire L119 light guns during Exercise Brimstone here, June 23. The gun crews emplaced the guns shortly after receiving a 'quick fire' mission while driving to their first position New Zealand Army Second Lieutenant Christian Jacobsen, a command post officer with 163 Battery, 16th Field Regiment, moves to his collimator to check the guns alignment during Exercise Brimstone here, June 23.

                       Can the border has one plz? 

We'll put it on our converted recreational yacht. Or I'll have it at the airport either or.

TOD me as an trainer and we'll be sweet. Can't put it on a boat thought the Puss would be worried that you could possibly go toe to toe with them and/or do them out of a job.

Who's supplying the hair gel and wax *****s.....

2/1kiwiWho's supplying the hair gel and wax *****s.....

Not this C/S You know that ****e don't work in my hair

NZSAS afghanistan 2011

gafkiwiTOD me as an trainer and we'll be sweet. Can't put it on a boat thought the Puss would be worried that you could possibly go toe to toe with them and/or do them out of a job.

Sounds like it would involve paying for stuff.

Where'd you scare up those photos Sirpad?

Thats Chuck Holton Pics from Afghanistan 2009/2010 NZSAS and DEA. Thats not all post here. Chuck remove all thats pics in 2010.

The 17th Annual Canadian International Sniper Concentration is an excellent opportunity for teams from Canada’s land forces as well allied and police snipers to further develop capabilities related to sniper-specific skill sets. This is achieved by focusing on the operational experience and lessons learned by Canada and its allies to create esprit de corps to develop healthy competition and to generate discussion about ways to improve sniper skills-sets for all parties involved

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The arms export ban was self imposed by Tokyo in 1976 but finally after 3 decades for several reasons is going to be relaxed.

Japan's Policies on the Control of Arms Exports

1. The Government of Japan has been dealing carefully with "arms" exports in accordance with the policy guideline named Three Principles on Arms Exports (hereinafter referred to as "the Three Principles") in order to avoid any possible aggravation of international conflicts.
2. Under the Three Principles, "arms" exports to the following countries or regions shall not be permitted: (1) communist bloc countries,
   (2) countries subject to "arms" exports embargo under the United Nations Security Council's resolutions, and
   (3) countries involved in or likely to be involved in international conflicts.
   The Three Principles have been the basic policy concerning Japan's "arms" exports since they were declared at the Diet session in 1967.
3. Subsequently, in February 1976, the Government of Japan announced the collateral policy guideline at the Diet session that the "arms" exports to other areas not included in the Three Principles will be also restrained in conformity with Japan's position as a peace-loving nation. In other words, the collateral policy guideline declared that the Government of Japan shall not promote "arms" exports, regardless of the destinations.
4. The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) controls Japan's "arms" exports, based on the Foreign Exchange and Foreign Trade Law. The exports of "arms" and equipment for arms production listed in the Export Trade Control Order (see Annex) require export licenses to all destinations, since those transactions could be obstructive to the maintenance of international peace and security. In addition, "arms" trades mediated between foreign countries by Japanese agent need METT's permission.
5. The term "arms" as referred to in the Three Principles is defined as "goods which are listed in Item 1 of Annexed List 1 of the Export Trade Control Order of Japan (see Annex), and which are to be used by military forces and directly employed in combat." Such "arms" include specially-designed parts and accessories as well as finished products. The question of whether each item falls under such "arms" or not will be judged objectively based on its shape, feature and other technical aspects, and regardless of its end-use. On the other hand, so-called dual-use items do not fall under such "arms."
6. Based on other relevant laws, the Government of Japan also deals with in a strict manner: (1) direct overseas investment for the purpose of manufacturing "arms" abroad, and
   (2) participation in the overseas construction projects of military facilities.
7. The export of technologies which are exclusively related to the design, production and use of "arms" as defined in paragraph 5 above (hereinafter referred to as the "military technologies") is treated in the same manner as the export of "arms." However, in order to ensure the effective operation of the Japan-United States security arrangements, the Government of Japan paved the way for the transfer of the military technologies to the United States as an exception to the Three Principles. Such transfer of military technologies to the United States is to be implemented in accordance with the Mutual Defense Assistance Agreement (the MDA Agreement) and the Exchange of Notes concerning the Transfer of Military Technologies concluded in 1983 under the MDA Agreement (the 1983 Exchange of Notes).

It's time to relax rules on arms export, R&D

The Yomiuri Shimbun

It is high time for the government to conduct a thorough review of its arms export restrictions in response to the shifting situation on the world stage and advancements in military technology.
The defense policy subcommittee at the Liberal Democratic Party's National Defense Division has proposed relaxing the nation's three principles on weapons exports in connection with a plan to revise the National Defense Program Guidelines by the end of this year.
In specific terms, the LDP panel called for ending the ban on joint research and development of military equipment with other countries. Currently, this country conducts such projects only with the United States.
The panel also proposed that this country's self-imposed blanket ban on weapons exports, which covers nearly every nation, be partially lifted and instead applied only to state sponsors of terrorism, nations subject to an arms embargo under U.N. resolutions and those engaged in armed conflict.
The subcommittee also proposed reconsideration of the government's definition of weapons, with the aim of making it possible for the nation to export such general-purpose products as gas masks and modified four-wheel-drive vehicles.
All of these proposals are reasonable. The government should give positive consideration to them.

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Arms development costly

Research and development of a state-of-the-art fighter jet, an unmanned drone and other high-tech weapons require huge budgets and sophisticated defense technologies. In recent years, there has been a growing tendency to develop each advanced weapon as a joint project involving more than one nation.
For example, the F-35 stealth fighter is being jointly developed by nine countries, including Britain and the United States.
Japan has not even studied the possibility of taking part in this fighter development project. This is because the nation bars itself from providing weapons technologies to all countries, except for the United States. Japan's joint development of a missile defense system with the United States is the only project permitted under its self-imposed rule.
Together with the U.S.-made F-22 Raptor stealth fighter, the F-35 fighter is one of the candidates to be the Air Self-Defense Force's next-generation F-X fighter.
However, if the nation chooses the F-35 jet, it will have to wait longer and pay more for them than the countries involved in the joint development project. This means Japan's own regulations have narrowed its range of options regarding a future key piece of military hardware.

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Defense firms struggling

The three principles on arms exports set by the government in 1967  originally prohibited the export of weapons to communist states, nations under arms embargoes based on U.N. resolutions and those involved in armed conflict. In 1976, however, the ban was expanded to cover almost every nation.
In principle, the procurement of weapons to defend a homeland should not be criticized. What undermines world peace is the selling of arms to countries such as those engaged in armed conflict.
Japan's defined role as a peaceful nation would not be impaired if it were to revert to the ideas originally set out under the three principles and ban the export of arms only to a limited number of countries.
It should be remembered that the financial situation of the nation's defense-related companies, which are not permitted to export weapons to other countries, are worsening as the defense budget is trimmed.
According to the results of a recent Defense Ministry survey, 35 companies related to the production of tanks and 20 companies related to the production of fighter planes have either quit the arms business or gone out of business in the past five years.
The security of the nation could be undermined if specialized companies and skilled workers involved in the manufacture of primary weapons are no longer available in Japan and the country has to rely on other nations. It is a matter of course that all nations should seek to maintain the technological and production bases that are needed to secure their defense capabilities.


(From The Yomiuri Shimbun, June 10, 2009)

 

                       JMSDF destroyer fleet.

How many Akizuki class does JMSDF plan?

Kunal Biswas

That's a great photo!             

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                                                 Echo300

Nevermind.......

MetroN

Water jump procedure back when many countries used a 'single point' quick release box or similar type harness(the infamous 'Dial of death' as our US cousins called it) was a little bit more complicated plus some parachute systems back then didn't have canopy releases(UK 'X' types and PX1'searly model US T-10's and French TAP's for example) which remains a critical option if the jumper cannot otherwise free himself of his harness upon water impact and/or high winds.I dare say that a few jumpers probably got into difficulty or drowned using this type of equipment when making water jumps intentional or otherwise. If I'm not mistaken the Swedish military used this old type of 'single point' harness without canopy releases until fairly recently. Hope this helps.

Seriously thanks for the answer. It helped alot 

i noticed in Echo 300's pic Of Two SEAL Divers coming ashorethat they look kinda bulky(not in the sense of equipment).They look fairly well builtjust wondering could anyone tell me what is better for specialist police/military unitsto be bulked up(muscle) or to be fairly built with emphasis on endurance??OR a combination of both??

There is no real specific bodytype. Physical endurance and mental toughness are probably the two most valuable assets one could have.

California JoeThere is no real specific bodytype. Physical endurance and mental toughness are probably the two most valuable assets one could have.

nearly all of em (if not all) repost

Paistebut thx anyways

yepreposts...worth the shot though..

Thanks for the great pics just ignore these repost people.

BUD/S and SWCC pics.

tnx for posting though mate.

Ummm...why didn't you just post them to the VERY large SEAL pic thread that's already going? Aand just FYI not all of them are SEALs several of them are SWCCs.

Thanks for the pics not reposts for everyone.

What eyewear is the guy wearing?

Stumbled upon this while searching for video of the ol' MK 26 GMLS in action.

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